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tezzz

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Registered: 2014-11-15

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Xfce degradation

xfdesktop-settings before update:

Now, new version xfce:

Why adjustments removed?

xfce4-terminal before update:

Now, new version xfce:

Why shortcuts settings removed?

Gnome3-way?

ToZ

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From: Canada

Registered: 2011-06-02

Posts: 11,485

Re: Xfce degradation

xfdesktop-settings before update:
Why adjustments removed?

A design decision was made to drop those two settings. To quote the developer:

Drop the brightness and saturation meter (xfdesktop != image-editor)

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xfce4-terminal before update:
Why shortcuts settings removed?

To support the GTK+ way of changing shortcuts.

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sixsixfive

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Registered: 2012-04-08

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Re: Xfce degradation

To support the GTK+ way of changing shortcuts.

GtkSettings:gtk-can-change-accels has been deprecated since version 3.10 and should not be used in newly-written code.
This setting is ignored.

https://developer.gnome.org/gtk3/stable … nge-accels

@tezzz

I don't think Xfce is devolving/degenerating, but GTK, GNOME and all other projects (eg GIMP) maintained by the GNOME project do... I still hope the Xfce-devs have a plan B for GTK3 since I love menu icons, and menu mnemonics

Last edited by sixsixfive (2014-11-15 16:40:48)

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A monotone icon theme for Xfce
A dark theme for Xfce

ToZ

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From: Canada

Registered: 2011-06-02

Posts: 11,485

Re: Xfce degradation

To support the GTK+ way of changing shortcuts.

GtkSettings:gtk-can-change-accels has been deprecated since version 3.10 and should not be used in newly-written code.
This setting is ignored.

https://developer.gnome.org/gtk3/stable … nge-accels

Discouraging news, to say the least.

However, running Arch here with GTK3.14, and the menu accelerators still work for GTK2 apps like xfce4-terminal. I have mostly purged my system of all GTK3 software (trying to run GTK2 versions where possible), and for the only GTK3 app I have left, it would appear that there is no way to create/change menu accelerators.

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stqn

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Registered: 2010-10-11

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Re: Xfce degradation

I just got the new desktop settings on Arch Linux, and am so disappointed that the brightness setting is gone. I was using it in my custom wallpaper changer to adapt the picture to the current lighting conditions.

ToZ

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Registered: 2011-06-02

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Re: Xfce degradation

I just got the new desktop settings on Arch Linux, and am so disappointed that the brightness setting is gone. I was using it in my custom wallpaper changer to adapt the picture to the current lighting conditions.

Yeah. I know a few people that used it. From: https://www.bountysource.com/issues/317 … hanges-hue

This was removed in xfdesktop 4.11 as a design change decision: https://wiki.xfce.org/design/xfdesktop/settings Drop the brightness and saturation meter (xfdesktop != image-editor)

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