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#1 2023-10-28 04:51:49

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Problem configuring the panel on a new installation

I've just installed Fedora 35 and Xfce 4.16 on my laptop and am trying to get the desktop looking the way I want.  Part of this is getting the apps I want on the panel, and getting them where on the panel they belong.  The first part works fine.  However, if I try to move an app across the panel, it ends up right where it was before, and there doesn't seem to be any way to force them to move.


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#2 2023-10-28 20:22:11

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Re: Problem configuring the panel on a new installation

Unless you have a specific reason to install Fedora 35 be aware it's an old release, not supported since December 2022.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fedora_Li … se_history

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#3 2023-10-28 20:34:28

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Re: Problem configuring the panel on a new installation

Yes, I have a very specific reason: F 38 and 37 Live images have a known bug that makes them hang at the grub> prompt.  I'm planning on upgrading RSN, but don't understand what that has to do with my question.


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#4 2023-10-28 22:29:40

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Re: Problem configuring the panel on a new installation

What are you referring to when you say "app"? Is this a launcher or another panel plugin?

Also, I assume you are right-clicking and selecting "move" then moving to another location on the panel. Is it the same panel or a different panel?

Here is you can get some debug info:

xfce4-panel -q
PANEL_DEBUG=1 xfce4-panel

...and try to move it again. See if anything is posted in the output.


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#5 2023-10-28 22:35:13

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Re: Problem configuring the panel on a new installation

Yes; launchers and plugins.  (Oh my!)  And yes, I'm trying to change their position on the panel, not move them to a different one.  I'll try your suggestion and see what happens.


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#6 2023-10-29 00:03:48

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Re: Problem configuring the panel on a new installation

I get a whole bunch of Gtk warnings.  Here's the last one:

wrapper-2.0:33927): Gtk-WARNING **: 18:00:14.775: gtk_widget_size_allocate(): attempt to allocate widget with width -1 and height 24
xfce4-panel(application): saving /panels/panel-1: ids=true, providers=false


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#7 2023-10-29 10:18:25

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Re: Problem configuring the panel on a new installation

That's just a warning - perhaps you can post back the full output.

Did right-clicking on the plugin, selecting "move" and moving the plugin work? The other way to move plugins is to right-click on the panel and select Panel > Panel Preference > Items tab, and use the arrow buttons on the right-hand side of the dialog to move the plugins around. See: https://docs.xfce.org/xfce/xfce4-panel/ … nces#items.


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#8 2023-10-29 16:31:41

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Re: Problem configuring the panel on a new installation

No, right clicking and moving didn't work; I didn't know about that other way but will try it now that I do.?  And all of the messages were like that; just warnings.

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#9 2023-10-29 18:30:35

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Re: Problem configuring the panel on a new installation

Separators?
They can make a difference where things move or don't move to.

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#10 2023-10-29 23:03:01

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Re: Problem configuring the panel on a new installation

JmaCWQ wrote:

Separators?

I was thinking of that too.

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#11 2023-10-29 23:46:35

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Re: Problem configuring the panel on a new installation

Everything seems to be going OK now, except for one thing.  There's at least one plugin, the Status Tray Plugin, that I can't put on the bottom panel, only the top.  That's a problem because I want to get rid of the top panel completely and only have the bottom one because that's how I like things.


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#12 2023-10-30 00:00:03

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Re: Problem configuring the panel on a new installation

Remove it from the top panel first, then add it to the bottom. Only one instance of it can be running at any time.


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#13 2023-10-30 00:13:24

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Re: Problem configuring the panel on a new installation

I already tried that.  Even if I remove it from the top panel, it's grayed out when I try to put it on the bottom panel.


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#14 2023-10-30 01:48:19

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Re: Problem configuring the panel on a new installation

That is odd. Once you have it removed from the top panel, restart the panel:

xfce4-panel -r

Does the plugin show up again in the top panel? If not, can you now add it to the bottom panel?


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#15 2023-10-30 05:23:47

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Re: Problem configuring the panel on a new installation

Thanx; the plugin is now on the bottom where I want it.  I'll not mark this thread solved just yet, in case I run into any more issues, but I think I've just about beaten my desktop into submission.


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