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MountainDewManiac

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Re: What's New in Xfce

So far how is the gtk3 porting soing?

Progress updates can be found at the bottom of this page. Looks like still a ways to go.

Lol.

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ToZ

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Re: What's New in Xfce

xfce4-power-manager Version 1.6.0 Released:

1.6.0
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New stable release of xfce4-power-manager.

* Bugfixes:
- plugin: Fix a couple memory leaks (Bug #12332)
- Fix a crash when the brightness slider is released
- Fix keyboard-brightness icon names (Bug #12292)
- Draw border around device details
- Add bitrig to backend detection (Bug #12242)
- Replace XTestFakeKeyEvent with inhibit/heartbeat (Bug #11083)
   /xfce4-power-manager/heartbeat-command is the xfconf property.
- Fix a crash on logout (Bug #12465)
- Show inhibitors in the plugin menu (Bug #9090)

* Translation updates:
  ar, ca, cs, da, de, el, en_AU, eu, fi, fr, gl, he, hr,
  is, it, ja, kk, ko, lt, ms, nb, nl, oc, pl, pt, pt_BR,
  ru, sk, sl, sr, sv, th, tr, uk, zh_CN, and zh_TW

Note: xfce4-power-manager has already been migrated to GTK3 (since 1.5.0).

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Jristz

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Re: What's New in Xfce

So far how is the gtk3 porting soing?

Progress updates can be found at the bottom of this page. Looks like still a ways to go.

From that page: Last modified: 2015/11/02 21:22 by aliov
that are like 4 (or 14) months since last update, I dubd thinks are stanged completly without a single change.

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janp

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Re: What's New in Xfce

Looking at the git repository xfce looks pretty dead., errrmmm .. I wanted to say: "stable".

ToZ

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Re: What's New in Xfce

Looking at the git repository xfce looks pretty dead., errrmmm .. I wanted to say: "stable".

More of the GTK3 migration work seems to be happening in the User branches at the git site, which doesn't display an idle time. Having said that..... yes - slow, steady and stable.

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Leinnan

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Re: What's New in Xfce

Some questions:

Is squeeze(xfce archive manager) going to be ported to GTK3? Is there any chance for him to use this same icons as gnome or mate alternative? Is there any option in Thunar menu for adding to archive with squeeze just like it is for gnome archive manager in Xubuntu?

There is any chance for expansion of functionality for genmon plugin? In my opinion is one of the best plugins for XFCE Panel and is almost main reason why I use XFCE panel even on i3wm. Maybe support for custom colors for parts of output?

ToZ

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Re: What's New in Xfce

Is squeeze(xfce archive manager) going to be ported to GTK3? Is there any chance for him to use this same icons as gnome or mate alternative? Is there any option in Thunar menu for adding to archive with squeeze just like it is for gnome archive manager in Xubuntu?

As of now, no-one has "signed-up" to do the porting work. Volunteers are welcome. That web page lists the status of the components that are being worked on.

There is any chance for expansion of functionality for genmon plugin? In my opinion is one of the best plugins for XFCE Panel and is almost main reason why I use XFCE panel even on i3wm. Maybe support for custom colors for parts of output?

I have taken over maintainership of this plugin and so far have done the following:

• ported it to GTK3

• added support for the panel --plugin-event that allows you to manually refresh the plugin so that it re-starts its timer. You can the command "xfce4-panel --plugin-event=genmon-X:refresh:bool:true" (where genmon-X is the panel plugin ID) to force a refresh of the plugin.

• bug #11284 - default tooltip not working

I'm currently working on Bug #3437 - allowing the value (output text) field to be clickable so that it can run a command. I plan to do a new release after this enhancement is done so as of now, those new features are only available in the development git tree.

If you have any other suggestions for improvements, please create a bug report and I'll see what I can do.

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ToZ

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Re: What's New in Xfce

Maybe support for custom colors for parts of output?

I should have mentioned that this is already possible using embedded pango in the <txt> element. Consider the following example:

#!/bin/bash
echo "<txt><span weight=\"bold\" fgcolor=\"Red\">T</span><span weight=\"bold\" fgcolor=\"Green\">e</span><span weight=\"bold\" fgcolor=\"Blue\">s</span><span weight=\"bold\" fgcolor=\"Yellow\">t</span></txt><tool>Tester</tool>"

..will print:

The pango format to change the colour is:

<span fgcolor="Red">Text</span>

...(if being echoed you need to escape the "s).

More info on the Pango Text Attribute Markup Language here.

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Leinnan

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Re: What's New in Xfce

Thanks for all the answers!

But I still will not stop bothering You

Two another things:
1. If genmon plugin have so great feature like support for Pango Text Attribute Markup Language why there is no info about it on plugin page? http://goodies.xfce.org/projects/panel- … mon-plugin

2. Porting work on new archive manager version should be working with old code or new project(spiritual successor?) written in C++ instead of C also would be acceptable?
In C the best I can make is this: https://github.com/Leinnan/twm-session-logout  OOP is more natural for me, so C++ is logic choice.
If answer for question number 2 is yes- which libraries you recommend for writing "native" application for XFCE? gtkmm? Something more/else?

Thanks again for all yours work on XFCE!

PS I hope that you will understand all from my message, because I am not sure about my English skills

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ToZ

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Re: What's New in Xfce

1. If genmon plugin have so great feature like support for Pango Text Attribute Markup Language why there is no info about it on plugin page? http://goodies.xfce.org/projects/panel- … mon-plugin

Done. Page has been updated.

2. Porting work on new archive manager version should be working with old code or new project(spiritual successor?) written in C++ instead of C also would be acceptable?
In C the best I can make is this: https://github.com/Leinnan/twm-session-logout  OOP is more natural for me, so C++ is logic choice.
If answer for question number 2 is yes- which libraries you recommend for writing "native" application for XFCE? gtkmm? Something more/else?

Existing Xfce applications are written in either C, C++, or Vala. If you are interested in working on a port or refresh of Squeeze, it may be more beneficial to post your ideas and questions to the xfce4-dev mailing list to get feedback from the developers.

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Jristz

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Re: What's New in Xfce

New in Xfce is some components releases minor bugfixes and some other majors like

* xfce4-notifyd: major version now use gtk-3 and some minimal rebuild to the theming, check if your notify theme still work (in theory it still but just check anyways)
* xfce4-clipman-plugin: just a gtk-3 port and I don't notice something new...
* xfce4-whisker-menu: gtk-3.20 and some new functions that I haven found but still alive.

and the minimal gtk-3 version for the net release is now being sugestedto be target 3.20 since a hell if #ifdefs.

I think that all so xfce4 still alive if someone pass and check this.

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Leinnan

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Re: What's New in Xfce

Can we now something about "New and big features" which are postponed to 4.16?

ToZ

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Re: What's New in Xfce

Sorry I haven't kept this thread up to date. Here are a couple of links that have "What's new" information:

- https://blog.xfce.org/
- http://simon.shimmerproject.org/ (clipman, notifyd, greybird, etc)
- https://plus.google.com/+SeanDavis1/posts/VS9q98GY79T (xfce4-settings migrated to GTK3)

Also, there is a lot of working being done on xfce4-terminal porting to gtk3/vte3.

The 4.14 roadmap document is here.

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Jristz

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Re: What's New in Xfce

Can we now something about "New and big features" which are postponed to 4.16?

technicaly everything, since 4.14 is supposed to be a gtk-3 migration.

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Jristz

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Re: What's New in Xfce

xfce4-terminal has been migrated to gtk3 and vte3 and released as 0.8

What I noticed that the manpages translations arent availables on transifex but the manpages are using the old translation in the new release... if someone dev watch this please do something.

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Re: What's New in Xfce

What I noticed that the manpages translations arent availables on transifex but the manpages are using the old translation in the new release... if someone dev watch this please do something.

Best to create a bug report. The developer is quite active.

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Jristz

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Re: What's New in Xfce

What I noticed that the manpages translations arent availables on transifex but the manpages are using the old translation in the new release... if someone dev watch this please do something.

Best to create a bug report. The developer is quite active.

Reported the last year... (which was like 12 hour ago)

and if someone is asking, I notices a brunch of pluggins ported to gtk3... and the only major parts of xfce still on gtk2 are Thunar, Xfdesktop, Xfce4-panel and maybe some somekind obcure plugins, I think.

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knuxyl

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Re: What's New in Xfce

So I am still having a problem with Thunar. I think it was in this thread a while ago someone posted a fixed binary of Thunar and said it would fix the problem of Thunar crashing if you move files from one place to another. It didn't fix it for me.

The Thunar bug works like this

Rename and Move files works, but if I do 3 of them consecutively, Thunar will crash. It sometimes even crashes on the first time I perform one of these actions. The same thing happens to Desktop a lot too. It is extremely annoying when trying to work and moving/renaming files because all my windows will close.

This happens either on a fresh install or completely updated install of Xubuntu 16.04.1 x86_64

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cmcanulty

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Re: What's New in Xfce

+1
this also causes it on mine
if I have several tabs open and I cut all the files in the tab I opened first it crashes

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ToZ

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Re: What's New in Xfce

xfce4-panel GTK3 migration code landed last night. Here are some preliminary screenies:

If anyone is interested in having a look and letting the author know via bug reports if there are any issues, I'm sure it would be greatly appreciated.

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rzi

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Re: What's New in Xfce

Super nice! Looking forward to next release.

xfce4-panel GTK3 migration code landed last night.

sixsixfive

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Re: What's New in Xfce

>xfce4-panel GTK3 migration code landed last night. Here are some preliminary screenies:

didn't like it since its now forcing symbolic icons for the panel plugins instead of following the GTK style this also adds 2 new bugs to it:

* inconsistency - to the already different icon sizes of xfce-panel-plugins, indicators and systray icons, icons will now use different icon styles. Symbolic icons are a GNOME-only thing, neither qt, x11, fltk, java, efl ... will use it so you will always have a panel mixed with regular and symbollic icons.
* xfce will now depend on the adwaita icon theme(GNOME artwork) - that is what gtk uses a symbolic fallback icon theme.

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ToZ

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Re: What's New in Xfce

You can use the "-gtk-icon-style: regular;" gtk3 hint to force non-symbolic icons for the panel plugins that have ported to GTK3. For example, the symbolic and regular versions of the pulseaudio and power-manager plugins:

As for the panel icon size issues, it might be a good idea to create bug reports for specific issues so they can be addressed during this migration.

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sixsixfive

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Re: What's New in Xfce

i know but it doesn't work an all plugins, for example the clipman plugin will always stay symbolic

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ToZ

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Re: What's New in Xfce

Looks like its missing a non-symbolic icon. Try copying /usr/share/icons/hicolor/scalable/apps/xfce4-clipman-plugin.svg to /usr/share/icons/hicolor/scalable/apps/clipman.svg (and re-building icon cache).

I'll create a bug report.

Edit: A bug report already existed. I posted to it.

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